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Le 2, Le 2 Pro & Le Max 2 Announced, All three Ditch The 3.5mm Audio Jack

by Joe 30

It’s been exactly one year since the Chinese media giant LeEco (formerly known as LeTV) entered the smartphone market. But during this time, the company has managed to get the attention of millions of fans, both in China and worldwide, thanks to its revolutionary smartphones. Last year, the company entered the industry with three great devices in the Le 1 series. Now, it’s time for a new generation of products, namely the Le 2 series. And guess what, once again, LeEco has surprised us all by announcing three powerful smartphones in the new Le lineup, namely the Le 2, Le 2 Pro and the flagship Le Max 2. Want to know more about these products? Read on!

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First of all, looks wise, these three phones look identical. They come with a metal body and a fingerprint sensor at the back. So, no real surprises here. However, the company is using its borderless ID 3.0 design which makes these three phones look like they feature a bezel-less display.

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Another important selling point for these three models is the absence of a standard 3.5mm headphone jack. Apparently, LeEco believes this is the direction to go, with USB Type-C and their own CDLA (continuous digital lossless audio) standard reportedly delivering better audio output than a traditional headphone jack.

Rest of the specs are a bit different on each of the device, so here are all the details.

Le 2

Le 2 will be the least powerful smartphone in the series and will be the direct successor to the Le 1S model that was announced in the second half of last year. The phone comes with much better hardware and looks than the previous generation making it a true successor.

The phone comes with the Helio X20 chipset under the hood, that powers some mid-range flagships in the market. This is actually a pretty good upgrade from last year’s Le 1S which featured Helio X10. There will be 3GB of RAM on board and 32GB of internal storage. This will be eMMC 5.1 storage standard. With these specs on board, LeEco claims that the phone manages to score a good 97,336 point on AnTuTu, which is pretty impressive.

As for the display, the phone comes with a 5.5 in-cell display 1080p display. The brightness of the screen can reportedly go up to 500 nits and come down to as low as 1 nit. As for the camera, you get a 16MP sensor at the back, with PDAF and f/2.0 aperture. The setup can reportedly focus in just 0.09 seconds. This is good upgrade from the 13MP sensor on the Le 1S. The front camera is also better, now featuring an 8MP sensor. Other features of the phone include a 3000mAh battery with fast charge, EUI with Android 6.0, VOLTE and 4G LTE support.

 

Le 2 Pro

le 2 pro 4gb ram

Le 2 Pro is a slightly upgraded version of the Le 2, featuring the new Helio X25 chipset clocked at 2.5GHz. Yes, it’s really surprising to see this inside the new LeEco device since Meizu had said that it would be exclusive to the Pro 6 for a few months. The phone features 4GB of RAM and 32GB of eMMC 5.1 storage that helps it reach 103,322 on the AnTuTu benchmark. At the back, you get a powerful 21MP Sony IMX230 sensor while up front, there’s the same 8MP shooter. The display remains the same, a 5.5-inch panel with 1080p resolution. Other features include USB TYpe-C, VoLTE and 3000mAh battery.

 

Le Max 2

Moving to the pick of the announcements today, the Le Max 2 is a real powerhouse featuring the Snapdragon 820 chipset clocked at 2.15GHz. What’s more, you get a massive 6GB RAM module inside with 64GB of UFS 2.0 storage. That’s some pretty powerful stuff. The display is larger, measuring 5.7-inches with 2K resolution. This makes it quite ready for VR headsets. With these specs on board, it’s not surprising that the phone managed to score 143,408 on AnTuTu. At the back, the phone comes with a 21MP camera with OIS, 6P lens and f/2.0 aperture. Up front, you get the same 8MP shooter. The Le Max 2 also features the new Ultrasonic fingerprint sensor from Qualcomm. Other features include dual band Wi-F0, VoLTE, full network support (works in over 200 countries) and 3100mAh battery with QC 3.0.

le max 2 specs

Pricing is yet to be revealed, but we will update the article with more details soon.

So what do you think about these three smartphones?

UPDATE: Pricing revealed!

Le 2 RMB1099 ($170),

Le 2 Pro RMB1499 ($232),

Le Max 2 4GB RAM RMB2099 ($324)/

                    6GB RAM RMB 2499 ($386)

* Update: Le 2, Le 2 Pro, Le Max 2 are available for pre-order at Oppomart now, please click here.

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  • Jakub

    Well, it seems it’s all about LeEco this year. Pricing is sick. Is it time to say goodbye to Meizu and Xiaomi?

  • Trym Bjerkvik

    Waw :O my new phone 🙂

  • Yury

    Not bad

  • Jakub

    I am totally getting the max (if it’s going to be available). But I’m curious why it also has fingerprint sensor on back. If it supports ultrasonic finger recognition shouldn’t it be under the screen?

  • Levi Smith

    Wow! If LeEco get these phones to India soon, then it’s definitely “bye-bye Xiaomi!”. People have been waiting for more than a month and half to get there hands on the Redmi Note 3 SD 650 version here, but they never have enough phones to sell, and don’t even reveal how many units they have sold in the flash sales. LeEco India launch will be a nice kick in the ass for Xiaomi – a well deserved one.

  • Trym Bjerkvik

    Anything about availability?

  • tauerman

    Not bad. But I will wait and see what ZUK has to offer tomorrow.

  • Millet Air Purifier

    The pricing kills everything. Unbelivable that the 6Gb Ram version is just 2499. While the entry level LE 2 is 1099 (same as mi4c in China). Xiaomi has NO chance against these prices….Jaw dropping

    • Alexis T

      Le Max2 could be what Mi5 should have been ^^

      Prices are so low, it’s like someone is trying to disrupt the market. If the hardware is accurately integrated (camera? battery life?), it could be a bloodshed. And it could be my next phone too 😀

      Now to be honest, design is very poor and the CDLA could be a crippling gimmick if there isn’t any audio chip inside the phone.

  • Tremaine Underwood

    Unbelieveable, if that pricing is true(add on +-$50 for international resellers) then this will throw the cat amongst the pigeons :-). I am not a fan of them removing the earphone jack, but at these prices I will make a plan…

    • Samuel Odan

      I’m not a fan of that too
      But like you said
      I’ll make it work

  • Robert Johnson

    Has anyone seen these items for sale yet since the announcement?

  • stfn

    Currently got the Letv Le 1s, and im very satisfied with, accept it doesnt support band 20 and still has some wifi issues. I hope the Le2 does have band 20! Does someone know when the release is planned?

  • some truly compelling offering from LeEco. The Max 2 is a beast!

  • Jakub

    Eh, just saw hands on video. I don’t really know why they are so laud about bezelless 3.0. Ugly borders are still there, maybe even bigger :/

  • erictheking87

    Such a sensational, revolutionary design! What a genious idea to abandon this old, dumb solution. Surely Sennheiser, AKG, Audio-Technica, Shure, Grado, Sony, Koss, Bose, Denon, and all the others more or less well known headphones manufacturers will use since this day microusb C jacks or whatever they invented instead of 3.5mm, ’cause that’s the way to go!
    Only problem is that in the headquarters of a/m companies probably nobody ever heard about LeTV, LeEco or whatever they are called now. So this genious idea won’t reach the ears of engineers of those companies.

    • Jakub

      iPhone 7.

    • Alexis T

      Why not replace jack 3.5 with USB Type C ?

      Chinese Music Association gave its stamp so it may quickly become a reality for the chinese market (which is’nt a small one, hey). FIIL is designing CDLA headphones, and its a brand new $20M chinese company : so it doesnt seem like joke to me. I think western audio brands will give it a try, since Apple is ditching 3.5 jack in its iPhone 7 too.

      I was thinking about buying a LG V10 lately (hi-end camera and hi-fi sound are what i’m looking for), now i think i’ll wait for this LeECO CDLA sh*t and give it a try.

      There is an article on gizmotimes about CDLA, you should check it

      • anemusek

        Yes… But that what you have saved on atractive price, you will lose on hradphones. DAC, AMP, and rest is chiper for leeco than consumer.

        • NextHype

          Yes i wasn’t aware of this fact when i wrote this. CDLA means getting AMP/DAC from the phone to the headphones, which is far from a technological advance.

  • jimberkas

    yes, very nice pricing indeed. design is pretty lame though and I don’t like the headphone jack decision.
    I suspect that Le Max2 just killed the Oneplus 3

  • GIJoe

    If the Le 2 has 5-5,2″ will be best buy for me, not everyone wants a baking sheet… 🙂

  • Scott Rennie

    Does this mean that the thing has two USB C ports? Charging a device while listening to music seems like a pretty huge function to loose (not to mention access to reasonably priced decent earphones.) . Perhaps there is an adaptor for 3.5mm to USB C?

    • jimberkas

      no, just one usb port. and yes, this does seem like a problem that hasn’t been thought out too good. i guess they assume you’ll be using bluetooth headphones. not good

  • Jason45

    There is also a Le 2 Pro version with the X20 version instead of X25 and it’s 100 yuan cheaper, 1399 yuan. I would take the Le 2 Pro X20 version, because you won’t notice the 200 MHz speed difference in real life situation, only in benchmark tests.

  • jimberkas

    guess i can’t post the link, but there was a pretty cool announcement today that LeEco poached a couple executives from Samsung for their big push into the US market, hope its coming soon

    “LeEco Poaches top Samsung Execs before US Launch”

  • balcobomber25

    The problem for me is I already 3 pairs of earphones I love, all of them are 3.5mm. Having to use an extra adapter means one extra thing I always have to carry with me and if I lose it I cant listen to music. They aren’t exactly the most common things to find. I also travel a lot for work and pleasure, when I am charging my phone between flights I listen to music.

    Specs and price is great but LeTV lost me with no headphone jack and that hideous black border.

  • jimberkas

    nice prices. but headphone jack is a deal breaker for me. but i do love the electric car!

  • Enigma

    Congratulations to LeEco for producing such a wonderful trio of smartphones. In Indian context LeEco Le 2 will kill the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 straight away along with many other Chinese branded phones from Vivo, Oppo and Gionee which retails at twice its price!!! Also Le 2 Pro and Le Max 2 with prices so low, it’s like someone is trying to disrupt the market. The pricing kills everything. While heaping all the praise to the recent LeEco devices with stellar hardware and built quality, I for one will be the first to stay away from this trio. The main reason is the absence of the iconic 3.5 mm headphone audio jack and second being the lack of a memory expansion slot.

    With this trio of recent LeEco devices following digital audio transmission over USB Type-C ports incorporating CDLA tech, the lowest priced model Le 2 will have equivalent audio quality to the highest priced model Le Max 2 over the same headphone. This is a good for us end consumers but the problem lies thereafter. No matter how much LeEco touts about lossless digital audio through USB Type-C ports, the headphone speakers are analog in nature so there is a definite need to convert this digitally transmitted signal to analog audio signal for us to hear.

    Audiophile oriented smartphones like Vivo X5Max with its HiFi 2.0 audio architecture uses superlative in-built audio hardware to produce stellar sound quality through headphones. I own one of them. At first it bypasses the inbuilt crappy audio codec (digital to analog conversion) that comes default with every Snapdragon or MediaTek chipsets. Then the lossless digital audio from CPU goes straight through its sublime EES SABRE ES9018 discrete DAC for digital to analog conversion. Next in the audio path comes the exclusive use of ESS SABRE ES9601 operational amplifier to convert the analog current output from DAC to analog voltage output on which headphone speakers operate. And finally a high quality Texas Instruments OPA1612 headphone amplifier is used to pump up the volume, so as to simply plug in any audiophile grade in-ear headphones or ear buds and drive it to the maximum. But to drive audiophile headphones to maximum and then X5-Max’s in-built audio hardware a lot power (watts) is required. It comes from the in-built battery of the phone through independent audio power supplies. Thus the output through 3.5mm female headphone jack of X5Max is analog in nature and you can plug in any headphones from Sennheiser, AKG, Audio-Technica, Shure, Grado, Sony, Koss with a 3.5m male audio jack. You do not have to worry about all the digital to analog conversion stuff as it is taken care inside the phone.

    For the new LeEco smartphones, they have opted to perform the digital to analog conversion and subsequent audio amplification outside their smartphones, which increases complications as adequate amounts of power needs to be channeled to the headphone along with the digital audio signal through USB Type-C port. Now the DAC and headphone amplifier needs to reside inside a special type of headphone. The additional hardware inside the headphones will gulp all the power in order to operate and then it will start converting the digital audio signal to analog audio on which headphone speakers operate and produce sound. And we have not yet touched topics like independent audio power supply of X5Max which will filter and distill the power from batteries and feed the hungry DACs and op-amps with stable, unadulterated and ripple free power to operate at maximum.

    Pick anyone of the LeEco devices and they will sound drastically different as the inbuilt DACs and operational amplifiers of each headphone brand will vary in quality and output. Which denotes the sound signature and tonality will also vary per headphone brand and type. On one hand you will get crappy sound with a compatible cheap headphone with Le Max 2 and then amazing sound quality if ever any audiophile headphone manufacturer in their wildest dreams thinks about making a LeEco compatible unit. In the end we are all drastically limited with the amount of headphones in offer from LeEco ecosystem and their availability. You can kiss goodbye to all your existing audiophile headphones. So as music lover current Le Eco devices are a no go for me.

    Next comes the topic of memory availability inside the phone. With tons of lossless audio FLAC files which are very big in size I need a minimum of 128 gigs to store my favorite songs. And the Le Max 2 only comes with 64 gigs internal (maybe around 55 gigs available) with no option from memory expansion. In the end even though I have my own share of regrets about the recent LeEco devices, I wish all the rest 90% of the smartphone buyers will be very happy with their products which have become icons for providing stellar quality smartphones at very aggressive prices in India.

  • Pedro Peter

    Idiots .. shittiest phone ever without hp jack .. following even more shittiest iphone crap